tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post3840841914682318243..comments2023-10-25T06:16:12.993-05:00Comments on Let's Be Clear: The strange career of patriarchy and race in the "belly of the beast"DebChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02018798227792356966noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post-26359942948242683542015-12-09T21:35:13.358-06:002015-12-09T21:35:13.358-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07637702971941759938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post-1138953838243053212015-09-27T09:32:41.097-05:002015-09-27T09:32:41.097-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post-13993448206631597522010-05-05T03:57:54.316-05:002010-05-05T03:57:54.316-05:00chelle2nines...you caught me up doing "hag&qu...chelle2nines...you caught me up doing "hag" watch! :-) Email sent.DebChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018798227792356966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post-4156354365387556782010-05-05T03:31:09.609-05:002010-05-05T03:31:09.609-05:00Hello, I can be reached at chelle2nines@yahoo.com....Hello, I can be reached at chelle2nines@yahoo.com. I agree with what you wrote about the woman who supposedly killed herself and children. I am very unsettled about this. Especially after hearing the 911 call from the father. He was too calm for me. I live down the street from them and I don't for a minute believe she did this. I think it was a murder for hire thing. I hope I'm wrong but this case bothers me to the core. Please email me back, wish I knew more about this case but its very suspect to me.chelle2ninesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post-82142672400065378662010-04-24T16:58:31.128-05:002010-04-24T16:58:31.128-05:00HT...No apologies necessary and there's no suc...HT...No apologies necessary and there's no such thing as "too vocal" in my book - though that has been my undoing on more than one occasion. But I could care less. One thing this continuing "journey of me" has taught me, is that truth - no matter the consequences - sits best with me.<br /><br />Yep, ea is someone I still hope I can "grow up" to be if <i>I</i> should have 10 or so years left. Not only is she culturally committed to women and her people (and humanity by extension), she is <i>actively</i> and continuously engaged in doing something about it. Most I've been able to offer, was my very, <i>vocal</i> self, when I wrote a weekly column for a little S. Florida newspaper (a huge benchmark on this journey!). Because I was there, I was able to see and write about how the police mistreated minorities (and how the city ignored it) - which in turn, led to being a part of a grassroots movement which ultimately conceived, and brought about a <i>CITIZEN's</i> Review Board of the cops to the city (when the fox is guarding the henhouse, ie. Police Internal Affairs Dept.), who's watching the damn fox??!!). I did two volunteer stints in New Orleans in '06 after watching Spike Lee's, "How the Levees Broke." I just <i>had</i> to do something. And here, of course. But that's it! My efforts seem sporadic compared to ea's commitment. I so respect and admire her for that.<br /><br />Your Sisyphus analogy is dead-on! But you left out the part about him pushing that damn rock up each time from - <i>HELL</i> - to which he was condemned for his loose lips!!" Makes the analogy all that more accurate. :-)<br /><br /><b>"Insofar as "colored women" (I hate that term..."</b><br /><br />I can see why you'd hate it. But it's a part of who I am, who I've come to be as a result of knowing her. I can't just discard her - not and say I'm on an <i>"honest journey of me."</i> She's an integral part of the whys and wherefores. Know what I mean?<br /><br /><b>"50 yard line - great objective, but we are in the foul zone, and will remain there until all women take a stand. "</b><br /><br />Ditto, but a girl can dream right?<br /><br />I tried the link, but it says the article's no longer available. Went to You Tube though, and found this great piece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S66qIdyAb4&feature=related<br /><br />Now <i>THIS</i>, is what I'm talking about! Being "vocal" about the <i>whole</i> truth of this shit - like Gouldin's honest assessment as to when, "...society cares."<br /><br />We'll have to part ways on the "some law enforcement officers" thing. I have my reasons.<br /><br /><b>"Maybe I am senile - how did we let this happen?"</b><br /><br />Don't think you're senile, HT. But you're right, <i>WE ALL</i> let this happen - but in different ways, and for different reasons, none which I think most of us are willing to own, IMHO.DebChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018798227792356966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post-74879254584942685772010-04-23T20:23:41.270-05:002010-04-23T20:23:41.270-05:00Deb I've been lurking here for a long time and...Deb I've been lurking here for a long time and have always been caught by ea has to say. She's another voice that is working to make things better against insurmountable odds. It's as if we, as women are the modern incarnation of Sisyphus - who had to roll the huge rock up the hill, and then when he had almost reached the summit, the rock rolled back down and he had to start all over again for all eternity. It was his punishment, because he tattled on the Zeus about one of his indiscretions with (gasp) a woman. See the obvious. Women have always been and if this keeps up will always be the rationale for men behaving badly. That tale is older that the bible. <br />Insofar as "colored women" (I hate that term, Because it brings to mind George Wallace, and worse, the "Strange Fruit" that you posted about) there are some really terrible things going on today to which nobody pays attention, because they involve women and children. 50 yard line - great objective, but we are in the foul zone, and will remain there until all women take a stand. Of course, that is just my opinion, BTW, if you think the Picton farm and the Highway of Tears is disturbing:<br />http://www.theprovince.com/news/List+missing+murdered+aboriginal+women+Canada+grows/2934179/story.html<br />Because of the Picton farm situation, the parents, friends and advocacy groups put pressure n the police forces to start an investigation, otherwise it would never have happened. In your country, thousands of ladies and children go missing every year, and no one gives a damn unless they are white girls from affluent families - and only if they weren't brutalized by white boys from affluent families who have their whole life ahead of them and could be negatively affected by being charged. <br />Can you tell I'm cynical?<br />On the other hand there are some law enforcement officers who really try to change things. I pin my hopes on them. <br />I am an older woman, so I only have another 10 or so years, and frankly, I'm glad about that. I was happy to escape from the 50's, was hopeful in the 60's, was very happy during the 70's looking forward to a truly equal future, and then I got busy with my kids during the late 80's/90's. When I got beyond work, and the needs of the gruesome twosome, I tuned back in, and was absolutely gobsmacked (british term) at what had happened during my absence. Today, I feel like I'm back in the 50's vis a vis women and children. <br />My apologies for the diatribe. I'm a lurker, but sometimes, something pushes a button and I get too vocal.<br />BTW, I hated June Cleaverville, I do not want that for my daughter and son, who have friends who span cultures, LGBT you name it - across the spectrum all of whom have slept in my spare room - I've supported a few of them too, during parental disputes.<br />Maybe I am senile - how did we let this happen?HThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11943288125686705908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post-91783931385757432072010-04-23T12:33:50.881-05:002010-04-23T12:33:50.881-05:00ea...Hey Woman!!! I just "thought you up&quo...ea...Hey Woman!!! I just "thought you up" as my Grandmama used to say!! I was <b>JUST</b> talking about you to HT!!!<br /><br />Sí, es absolutamente otra historia lamentable. Uno de tan muchos ("One of many" - is that right?).<br /><br /><b>"...if people turned away from commercial media. I truly believe it is the single most destructive force to female empowerment in industrialized societies."</b><br /><br />I totally agree with you. But it is so damned imbedded, such a large part of the fabric of this society that I don't see that happening any time soon either. <br /><br /><b>"This is on top of social constructs that emerged from emperialism (as I see it) that separate people into classes of privilege."</b><br /><br />I see it the same way ea, though the imperialists will never own that shit. And I think that speaks to <i>THEIR OWN</i> insecurities - got to make somebody else feel less than, so they can feel better than. And it, like the addiction of commercialism, is so deeply imbedded that I doubt I'll live to see the constructs destroyed, even on a small scale.<br /><br />That "privilege" thing is the brass ring for many - and plenty people are scratching and stepping on others to reach it.<br /><br />It's like my eldest said to me one day, "You know Mom, there's no <i>there,</i> there. Seems like everytime people reach a certain place, they always want more - whether they need it or not. Me, I'd be satisfied sittin' on the 50-yard line."<br /><br />I agree with him.DebChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018798227792356966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post-1620907622399031822010-04-23T12:10:44.912-05:002010-04-23T12:10:44.912-05:00Thanx HT! Yeah, it's disturbing - on so many l...Thanx HT! Yeah, it's disturbing - on so many levels.<br /><br />And you're right about his "valued status" as a soldier <i>GOING TO FIGHT</i> in this stupid war. The only time that status will change is if he comes back and needs some kind of psychiatric/medical help - then he'll get shuffled to the bottom of the deck, as has been the case with many of the returning wounded.<br /><br />Man! I looked up the Pickton Pig Farm murders and all the <b>First Nations</b> women (I like that term - a lot! It acknowledges and pays respect to those least acknowledged or respected) who're missing or have been murdered along the "Highway of Tears" and it just overwhelms (thanks for the info though, cuz I have to say, I knew nothing about it).<br /><br />The exact same thing is, and has been occurring in Juarez, Mexico - a border town near El Paso, TX. My friend ea, who often comments here, is deeply involved in helping the women there. She calls it "Femicidio." Here's a translated link about it - http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.mujeresdejuarez.org/&ei=ltHRS8KVNpiSMuWnyfAO&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAsQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfemicidio%2Ben%2Bjuarez%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX <br /><br />"The throw aways of society" is not cynicism, HT - it's truth. I just wish ALL women would band together and say "We're mad as hell and we're not takin' this shit anymore!!"<br /><br />But we'd have to get up from under the patriarchal thinking of needing men to "take care of us" first. Don't see that happening any time soon unfortunately.<br /><br />Thanx for stopping in and - commenting! And again - thanx for checking on me.DebChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02018798227792356966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post-61958369879861686672010-04-23T11:59:11.188-05:002010-04-23T11:59:11.188-05:00Pues, otra historia lamentable.
In a bizarre way,...Pues, otra historia lamentable.<br /><br />In a bizarre way, declining incomes may result in a positive if people turned away from commercial media. I truly believe it is the single most destructive force to female empowerment in industrialized societies. Too many girls buy into the victim role, and too many boys buy into the posessor role. This is on top of social constructs that emerged from emperialism (as I see it) that separate people into classes of privilege.eanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8178687658619226992.post-55276531556969596602010-04-23T07:38:25.015-05:002010-04-23T07:38:25.015-05:00Glad to see you back, even though it's a very ...Glad to see you back, even though it's a very disturbing post.<br />Unfortunately, the situation involves a woman and children - neither of which are valued in today's society, so I doubt there will be any indepth investigation, expecially as the father was a soldier on his way to Afpak. And yes, women of color do seem to have it much worse. We have a situation up here in the Northland, where so many first nations women have disappeared along the "highway of tears", that it's finally getting attention - after 20 some odd years. Another one in another province where over 500 women have disappeared in a span of over 20 years, which is also finally getting some (and I mean some) attention, but only after the Picton pig farm atrocity. Women, the throw aways of society. Sorry for the cynicism, but if history is a measure, then the response will be tepid window dressing at most.HThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11943288125686705908noreply@blogger.com